Mystery Of The Missing Thread!!!

DS
DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago

Hello Folks,

IndiForum, I thought, till now was a place where one could easily share their views and thoughts without the fear of being ridiculed or without the apprehension that you will be ganged up against and laughed at. Everyone was given a fair chance - everyone heard, everyone given a chance to explain their side of the story.

The IndiTeam never went about shouting at bloggers or fighting with them or deleting their threads let alone deleting profiles.

Numerous terrible and controversial issues occured from time to time but even those so called volatile thread topics happily stayed here. And why not? After all, that has always been the real beauty of the forum, a place which I feel proud to call myself a hero of!

But last week my harmless thread appealing to my Friend 'The Sorcerer' aka Sorc was deleted by someone. The thread was neither showing anyone in bad light, neither was it flaming, neither was it abusive, neither was it trolling... Just a plea to recall Sorc back to the forum on which he has always been an asset and loved dearly. Sad that I witnessed such a day on a forum which I thought was for everyone. Deleting threads without citing a proper reason is dictatorship. This is really sad...

... Can someone throw some light on it?

Edited 10 months ago
Reason: formatting
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The Fool
The Fool
from Bangalore
10 months ago

Yes. Somebody throw some light.

The Fool
from Bangalore
10 months ago

Don't throw torches at us, though.

C. Suresh
from Bangalore
10 months ago

There are rules against flaming TF:) They can throw torches not lighted torches:)

 

The Fool
The Fool
from Bangalore
10 months ago

On this particular issue, I leave it to the mods/owners of Indi to reply to DS. But I do feel everyone deserves to  know why his or her thread was deleted. Sorc used to post on the thread itself before deleting. But better to maintain a seperate sticky thread where list of threads deleted/locked are posted by mods with reason so that everyone knows why threads are deleted/locked. I have seen this in another forum I have been part of. 

C. Suresh
from Bangalore
10 months ago

Second that

Ritvik Gautam
from Bangalore/Ahmedabad
10 months ago

+1

Renie Ravin
Renie Ravin
from Chennai
10 months ago

Hey DS, it wasn't the IndiTeam who deleted your thread, it was one of the IndiPolice... I'll let that person explain if he/she decides to do so! Smile

@Fool - we're quite close to having that functionality on the forum, we're working on upgrading IndiPolice. We had to pause development soon after introducing the lock thread feature, but we're back to it now.

We've spoken to the Sorcerer, and although he has made his decision, there are no hard feelings between anyone. Hopefully he'll come back someday, but that's up to him!

C. Suresh
from Bangalore
10 months ago

Hi Renie! Relatively new here so do not know how IndiTeam and IndiPolice operate. The latter operates totally independent of the former?

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
Thanks for your swift reply Renie. I kind of always had in the back of my mind that the Inditeam are not of the kind who go on deleting threads for no reason whatsoever. Its very good to hear that there is no love lost between Indi and Sorc, I hope he comes back soon.
Animesh K. Mishra
Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

OK, I deleted that thread. 

And I think there is a lot of confusion over what I did and a lot is being read between lines. The thread was giving a wrong impression to people that something wrong has happened on the forum which made Sorc left. Obviously nothing of that sort had happened.

And before deleting, I spoke to Sorc, redirected him to the thread, and only after I was told that the thread won't help and he stands by his decision, that he isn't even going to see this thread again, I deleted it.

I am sorry DS if you're taking it personally, but Sorc is equally close to me and if you wish me to call a dictator for deleting the thread for the reason stated above, so be it.

C. Suresh
from Bangalore
10 months ago

Hi Ani! I am sure that DS and TF will agree that none of us think of you as being dictatorial. Maybe it would have helped to keep things clear if you had mentioned the reasons for deleting before you did delete the thread - as TF says Sorc used to do.

Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

OK, let me clarify few things.

Even if I put up reasons and delete the thread, no one will know it except the thread creator and that too, if he/she has not disabled the mail notofication. Moreover, I am really busy these days and that is evident from my less presence on the forum. I was browsing through my mobile phone when I saw the thread. Two things here now.

  1. I had no time to explain the reason as I said above.
  2. No one can comment on a thread on Indiblogger from a phone.

I was in a fix as I could either leave the thread AS-IS to create more confusion which was evident from questions being asked there or delete it which was possible from the phone.

Now tell me, did I do something wrong?

Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago

well sir i earlier put up a thread (http://www.indiblogger.in/forum/topic.php?id=12910) asking for indiblogger on mobile and it was locked. the reason being "Please use http://www.indiblogger.in/m/forum for using the mobile version.. Thanks":O the indipolice didn't knew of this 

Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

Well, Indipolice knows this but as a matter of fact, while using it in past, I had noticed that the page is not updated there and lots of things were missing. 

Moreover, I have already clarified that I was in a hurry then. So what was expected? See a thread on the forum, if you find something which needs to be deleted, type another URL to make a comment before deleting and then delete it?

Why can't people look at the reason why theread was deleted? I have also mentioned that I spoke to Sorc before taking any action. 

Did I do some crime by deleting the thread? If it is taken in that spirit, I'm sorry my friends, but this is highly disturbing for me!

Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago

well as far as i know you didn't do nothing wrong in it........but also see that first a newbie like me gets to see that someone has left this place for some reason........and obviously the comments made us (or rather me) made me feel that something serious happened./

and that's why you deleted the post./

but then again we come to know that the post has been deleted it will unintentionalyy mislead us to the fact that someone had problems with indi, and indi doesn't want it let out.//

things can be percieved differently, rather than what is shown.

and i think atleast in this case an explanation was needed(but i have an idea of what happened, so i don't need an explanation. the one who posted the original thread must have had it clarified that the issue is not with indi and all. thrat's what i feel) 

Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

This is my take on it.

Sorc leaving Indi is an unfortunate event as I see it. But, even if he took that decision, he could have done so quietly. Creating a thread for saying good bye was still OK, but creating a thread to say Good-bye and leave some unanswered answers is where all this started.

If someone wants to leave, its better to leave silently or else he/she shaould give actual reasons which would save forum from lots of unrest

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
@ Animesh If you thought that the thread was so volatile why did you reply to it. You commented on it first, and then let the thread remain for a good 8-10 hours on the forum before deleting it. And one can easily post replies from the mobile phone, I access Indiblogger from my mobile only, and to clarify I dont even own some I phone or android or some hi end phone. You say you had no time to explain the reason on the thread but you had time to speak to Sorc explain him whats there in the thread? You could have sent me an indimail... Even so, I still dont get what was in the thread that compelled you to delete it. If it was so bad for the forum I would not have started the thread myself as I have been here for more than 1.5 years myself!!! At Indiblogger, bigger issues and controversies have taken place like the Saurav Pandey issue or the Samsung Galaxy Tab contest controversy... Even these threads were not deleted, why would my thread be deleted??? Sorc would have probably never come back, but then probably he could have... We have to give everything a chance but you just squashed that chance by deleting the thread... And just for your info, I contemplated quitting Indi because I was very hurt and saddened that my harmless thread was deleted... Just the advise of a close friend made me change my decision.
Animesh K. Mishra
Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

And one last word, I have told it many times now. I really was in a hurry. So, please suggest me what should I do in such cases where I think a thread needs to be deleted and I don't have much time to explain the reason? Should I leave it so that more confusion is there? Or should I delete it without explaining the reason? Which is better?

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
Yeah leave it there unless its Shameless Self Promotion or where people are giving out links or asking for reviews or abusing or trolling or flaming...
Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

Anyway, I also got my share here on Indiblogger! I feel I have been treated in a right manner for deleting a thread which I thought had a potential to spread unrest.

I'll not delete any thread now on.

Renie is already tracking this thread and he can take away my extra rights.

GOod bye

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
I am not still not understanding what unrest was my thread creating? Bigger threads have never been deleted here as I have stated above... And if you had sent me a mail then probably all this would not have happened.
Animesh K. Mishra
Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

I dont know why my earlier comment is not visible. I will simply write it again. 

So, you mean to say that I am lying that I am unable to comment on a thread from my phone. OK, may be the case!

BTW, I was the first one to reply on the thread and I did not think it will turn that way till the time people started asking questions why he left and if something had happened!

Anyway, it was a good thread questioning my intentions here. Thanks a lot!!!

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
I never told you lied... I was more surprised at you not being to reply from the mobile... And you just calm down ok.
Yatin Khurana
Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago
an appeal to both of you.........firstly DS when you create a thread you are talking to 45 thousand people ......... and there you never told us why he left......... those who knew nothing of what happened ......... thought something tragic happened ........ so if hinted to something related to authorities of indi and a lot unpleasant...... it had to be stopped ........... but I am clearly against censorship ......... deleting a thread is not at all adviced (and that one didn't even had pornographic or abusive content ) ........... you should have left an explanation and then locked it rather
Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago
and I also know am younger than both of you......both in age and in indi family.......so I must not say all this or interfere but........!!!" also p.s. both of my replies here are from phone (am not being sarcastic or so......but yes they are)
DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
Yatin, Indiblogger is known for not deleting threads. Kindly go through the threads mentioned above by me and compare it with my thread and you will get the point. I dont think my thread had any such content that would prove detrimental to Indi. And the reason why Sorc left is irrelevant, it was more important to make an appeal to call him back.
Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago
well I have been on that thread and I never advocated that threads should be deleted. and that too deleting of that thread created more unwanted hairs.....err unwanted feelings of prejudice against indi.-////// all am saying is if that thread created feelings against indi s administration or whatever or as animesh felt so then things needed to be stopped then and made clear. deleting was a wrong step continuing too would have been
Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago
btw I meant I've been on thread that was deleted ....... can you mail me the links to those threads
Gayathri
Gayathri
from Chennai
10 months ago

Now I am more curious to know what was in that thread..! Undecided

Desire v/s Destiny
Desire v/s Destiny
from Gurgaon
10 months ago

Well After speaking to the Sorc.. that day and till now , I can only say I wish he comes back.

Regarding Deleting the thread : I guess Locking might have been a better option.

I am not sure , I am no police , But I guess Indiblogger.in has lost someone special.

no comments

+1

This is going towards a heated argument.

But in my opinion, I don't really think one actually needs to create a thread just to say good-bye. And on top of that leaving un-answered questions (I had seen that thread). 

But I guess, he is gone, his presence will be missed, but there is no point in going on argumenting further on this.

 

PS: No offense intended to anyone.

Yatin Khurana
from delhi
10 months ago
this thing must not be carried still ........ but it do needs a conclusion :-|
Ritvik Gautam
from Bangalore/Ahmedabad
10 months ago

Sorc wanted to go, and he went - That's the conclusion!

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
Sorc wanted to go - he went... I wanted to call him back - My attempt was cut short???
Ritvik Gautam
from Bangalore/Ahmedabad
10 months ago

I wish he comes back. But to me it looked a well thought decision. I'll be so glad to see him back.

Animesh K. Mishra
Animesh K. Mishra
from Mumbai
10 months ago

People, I had decided not to comment on this thread, but repeated allegations forced me to comment now though I have cleared it repeatedly. Attempt is fruitful only when someone reads it, when Sorc said he is not going to even login, what that attepmt was meant to do.

Anyway, I am deeply hurt as I see leaving of Sorc became so important that others who remained here held no importance and people did not think twice before commenting how it could hurt someone with no malacious intentions.

Deem this as my last reply on IndiForum. I will be active on Indiblogger via Indivine and Indimeets, but don't expect me to see anymore on Indiforum or Inditalk. Thanks a lot for eveything which I got from here!

The Fool
from Bangalore
10 months ago

Ani - when you are in a responsible position, there will always be people who will be unhappy with your decisions. That is the burden of leadership - you can't go about pleasing all - you will have to live with the fact that your actions will hurt others at times and you might face some flak time to time. Learning to live with it is part of leadership. So don't talk of quitting. Take this in your stride and move on. 

Desire v/s Destiny
from Gurgaon
10 months ago

Come on captain !!! your presence is required on In forums because it might be the reason for someone else's persence as well.

I guess you will re thinnk and take everything positively.

We dont want to loose you !

 

C. Suresh
from Bangalore
10 months ago

You know I agree with TF and DvD on this, Ani! Disagreements can, sometimes, be disagreeable but we do not cut loose of even that friend, leave alone a whole gang of friends because of that.

DS
from Mumbai
10 months ago
Apologise to you Ani on behalf of Ritvik and Yatin, never intended to hurt you... Please reconsider your decision to leave indi. Never wanted this to happen.
Ritvik Gautam
from Bangalore/Ahmedabad
10 months ago

Capt, you and TF were the first person to whom I talked to when I first came here. You acquainted me with all the happenings here. You were the one whom I spent endless hours on IndiTalk. I looked upto you. And now hearing something like this from you, it's actually really sad for me. Cry

Forgive me if I said something you didn't liked. It was never intended in that way. 

Please come back.