Mystery Of The Missing Thread!!!
IndiForum, I thought, till now was a place where one could easily share their views and thoughts without the fear of being ridiculed or without the apprehension that you will be ganged up against and laughed at. Everyone was given a fair chance - everyone heard, everyone given a chance to explain their side of the story.
The IndiTeam never went about shouting at bloggers or fighting with them or deleting their threads let alone deleting profiles.
Numerous terrible and controversial issues occured from time to time but even those so called volatile thread topics happily stayed here. And why not? After all, that has always been the real beauty of the forum, a place which I feel proud to call myself a hero of!
But last week my harmless thread appealing to my Friend 'The Sorcerer' aka Sorc was deleted by someone. The thread was neither showing anyone in bad light, neither was it flaming, neither was it abusive, neither was it trolling... Just a plea to recall Sorc back to the forum on which he has always been an asset and loved dearly. Sad that I witnessed such a day on a forum which I thought was for everyone. Deleting threads without citing a proper reason is dictatorship. This is really sad...
... Can someone throw some light on it?
There are rules against flaming TF:) They can throw torches not lighted torches:)
On this particular issue, I leave it to the mods/owners of Indi to reply to DS. But I do feel everyone deserves to know why his or her thread was deleted. Sorc used to post on the thread itself before deleting. But better to maintain a seperate sticky thread where list of threads deleted/locked are posted by mods with reason so that everyone knows why threads are deleted/locked. I have seen this in another forum I have been part of.
Hey DS, it wasn't the IndiTeam who deleted your thread, it was one of the IndiPolice... I'll let that person explain if he/she decides to do so!
@Fool - we're quite close to having that functionality on the forum, we're working on upgrading IndiPolice. We had to pause development soon after introducing the lock thread feature, but we're back to it now.
We've spoken to the Sorcerer, and although he has made his decision, there are no hard feelings between anyone. Hopefully he'll come back someday, but that's up to him!
Hi Renie! Relatively new here so do not know how IndiTeam and IndiPolice operate. The latter operates totally independent of the former?
OK, I deleted that thread.
And I think there is a lot of confusion over what I did and a lot is being read between lines. The thread was giving a wrong impression to people that something wrong has happened on the forum which made Sorc left. Obviously nothing of that sort had happened.
And before deleting, I spoke to Sorc, redirected him to the thread, and only after I was told that the thread won't help and he stands by his decision, that he isn't even going to see this thread again, I deleted it.
I am sorry DS if you're taking it personally, but Sorc is equally close to me and if you wish me to call a dictator for deleting the thread for the reason stated above, so be it.
Hi Ani! I am sure that DS and TF will agree that none of us think of you as being dictatorial. Maybe it would have helped to keep things clear if you had mentioned the reasons for deleting before you did delete the thread - as TF says Sorc used to do.
OK, let me clarify few things.
Even if I put up reasons and delete the thread, no one will know it except the thread creator and that too, if he/she has not disabled the mail notofication. Moreover, I am really busy these days and that is evident from my less presence on the forum. I was browsing through my mobile phone when I saw the thread. Two things here now.
- I had no time to explain the reason as I said above.
- No one can comment on a thread on Indiblogger from a phone.
I was in a fix as I could either leave the thread AS-IS to create more confusion which was evident from questions being asked there or delete it which was possible from the phone.
Now tell me, did I do something wrong?
well sir i earlier put up a thread (http://www.indiblogger.in/forum/topic.php?id=12910) asking for indiblogger on mobile and it was locked. the reason being "Please use http://www.indiblogger.in/m/forum for using the mobile version.. Thanks":O the indipolice didn't knew of this
Well, Indipolice knows this but as a matter of fact, while using it in past, I had noticed that the page is not updated there and lots of things were missing.
Moreover, I have already clarified that I was in a hurry then. So what was expected? See a thread on the forum, if you find something which needs to be deleted, type another URL to make a comment before deleting and then delete it?
Why can't people look at the reason why theread was deleted? I have also mentioned that I spoke to Sorc before taking any action.
Did I do some crime by deleting the thread? If it is taken in that spirit, I'm sorry my friends, but this is highly disturbing for me!
well as far as i know you didn't do nothing wrong in it........but also see that first a newbie like me gets to see that someone has left this place for some reason........and obviously the comments made us (or rather me) made me feel that something serious happened./
and that's why you deleted the post./
but then again we come to know that the post has been deleted it will unintentionalyy mislead us to the fact that someone had problems with indi, and indi doesn't want it let out.//
things can be percieved differently, rather than what is shown.
and i think atleast in this case an explanation was needed(but i have an idea of what happened, so i don't need an explanation. the one who posted the original thread must have had it clarified that the issue is not with indi and all. thrat's what i feel)
This is my take on it.
Sorc leaving Indi is an unfortunate event as I see it. But, even if he took that decision, he could have done so quietly. Creating a thread for saying good bye was still OK, but creating a thread to say Good-bye and leave some unanswered answers is where all this started.
If someone wants to leave, its better to leave silently or else he/she shaould give actual reasons which would save forum from lots of unrest
And one last word, I have told it many times now. I really was in a hurry. So, please suggest me what should I do in such cases where I think a thread needs to be deleted and I don't have much time to explain the reason? Should I leave it so that more confusion is there? Or should I delete it without explaining the reason? Which is better?
Anyway, I also got my share here on Indiblogger! I feel I have been treated in a right manner for deleting a thread which I thought had a potential to spread unrest.
I'll not delete any thread now on.
Renie is already tracking this thread and he can take away my extra rights.
I dont know why my earlier comment is not visible. I will simply write it again.
So, you mean to say that I am lying that I am unable to comment on a thread from my phone. OK, may be the case!
BTW, I was the first one to reply on the thread and I did not think it will turn that way till the time people started asking questions why he left and if something had happened!
Anyway, it was a good thread questioning my intentions here. Thanks a lot!!!
Well After speaking to the Sorc.. that day and till now , I can only say I wish he comes back.
Regarding Deleting the thread : I guess Locking might have been a better option.
I am not sure , I am no police , But I guess Indiblogger.in has lost someone special.
This is going towards a heated argument.
But in my opinion, I don't really think one actually needs to create a thread just to say good-bye. And on top of that leaving un-answered questions (I had seen that thread).
But I guess, he is gone, his presence will be missed, but there is no point in going on argumenting further on this.
PS: No offense intended to anyone.
Sorc wanted to go, and he went - That's the conclusion!
I wish he comes back. But to me it looked a well thought decision. I'll be so glad to see him back.
People, I had decided not to comment on this thread, but repeated allegations forced me to comment now though I have cleared it repeatedly. Attempt is fruitful only when someone reads it, when Sorc said he is not going to even login, what that attepmt was meant to do.
Anyway, I am deeply hurt as I see leaving of Sorc became so important that others who remained here held no importance and people did not think twice before commenting how it could hurt someone with no malacious intentions.
Deem this as my last reply on IndiForum. I will be active on Indiblogger via Indivine and Indimeets, but don't expect me to see anymore on Indiforum or Inditalk. Thanks a lot for eveything which I got from here!
Ani - when you are in a responsible position, there will always be people who will be unhappy with your decisions. That is the burden of leadership - you can't go about pleasing all - you will have to live with the fact that your actions will hurt others at times and you might face some flak time to time. Learning to live with it is part of leadership. So don't talk of quitting. Take this in your stride and move on.
Come on captain !!! your presence is required on In forums because it might be the reason for someone else's persence as well.
I guess you will re thinnk and take everything positively.
We dont want to loose you !
You know I agree with TF and DvD on this, Ani! Disagreements can, sometimes, be disagreeable but we do not cut loose of even that friend, leave alone a whole gang of friends because of that.
Capt, you and TF were the first person to whom I talked to when I first came here. You acquainted me with all the happenings here. You were the one whom I spent endless hours on IndiTalk. I looked upto you. And now hearing something like this from you, it's actually really sad for me.
Forgive me if I said something you didn't liked. It was never intended in that way.
Please come back.