Women dont joke ....because they marry them.. !!!

Let me give a simple instance- a girl who has had a boyfriend before marriage will be tainted as a whore and men having 20-25 or even more will be the "Dabaang" dudes. i'm not talking about guy-girl talk. It's the society as a whole that considers it to be that way.

Wats happening fella's? I am stuck in the Lunar module of the Appolo 13 n people r busy talking woman n men here? :O 

Hey il come to rescue you...dont worry :-)...Dont trust ur UNKNOWN BHAI...he's busy tkng about his illusions......Here i Comeeeeeeeeeeeeee :-)

@Raisa

that shows how much u respect for peer views...

Raisa..i guess u can't do it all alone...unity is strength n y don't men n women unite in all their works n make things possible, cleaner n better?! 

Now come rescue me :P

@naveen : Because few wont talk about unity , rather brag about "individualism "....u see if m right or not...

from last 2 hours  m using the word "we"...and rest are saying "Me", "Me", "Me"...

thts y...things are very differnt in reality :-)....Here i come againnnnnnnnnn :-p , he he

Oh..glad some1's atlst watching over my craft! :P 

Between..i caught the Nair in ur name, keralite?

@aldeena : thanx a lot .....uffff m happy to see some girl here finally ...  :-) !!! 

I agree wtih you....thts what clearly mentioned that things are almost same in north but yes no doubt south is better in these aspects.....still not best !!! And delhi's case as far i have heard is the worst....i have heard tht its really difficult for girls to even go around thr college....but people are totally out of topic here...rather bragging about male gender .. :-/ !!!

Raisa, I too am a South Indian by birth but things are no different with South residents. I agree there is a certain bit of a difference but even there these stereotypes and stupidities exist! And North toh..tauba tauba! :P

Patriarchy is something that  has been in place since the time of the ancient Greek civilization. It is not something that you can shut your eyes to. Women were counted at par with slaves andconsidered irrational. If you study religious mythology deeply, especially Hinduism and Greek mythology, you will discover a deep-rooted patriarchy that emerged over a period of time. There are layers to these texts hiding so much..Women have borne a lot and it is simply unfair to say that we have it easy. I agree the situation is better now, but it is mostly in the urban areas, look to the rural parts you will see that conditions are as bad as before. Sati still happens, so do marital rapes, forced marriages, etc...Things that are inhumane and disgusting to say the least! Sorry for flushing the humour out but some of the remarks here were a little offensive atleast to me. We don't have it easy. I live in the city of Delhi, I am a well-educated girl with very progressive parents and a great boyfriend, but society is such that there are still times when I wish I wasn't a girl. Things would have been easier. There are some freedoms that shall never be mine. Because of my gender.

@vipin : Thn please do the needsome of reading from the start ...... to clear urself that its not me but "MEN GROUP "...whose talking on mythology, puranas, vedas, god knows what alll.......and m the one sking them to talk abt "TODAY"....because telling the truth m really bad in those..but still trying to come out with best !!! And yes i got to know lot about old times....thnx to all guyssss :-)

@unknown : M not confronting Pramod Ji but asking to atleast stay with the topic and understand the need of it.....here no one would have tkd on the topic...but had all off topic discussions...and here u are with the NEW ONE...u r really different :-p

And i want to live in that millenia and talk like you :-p

@Raisa :O so u mean..women are in that tough situation..now..no no..u r exagerrating things out of proportion...

I think u r jealous of men..and cursing GOD for being born as a girl..

@unknown : U r exagerrating things out of this world MAN......and m very happy to be girl  (AS I SAID BEFORE AND U DIN SEE )  !!!

And c u proved the topic......joking about women when u cant talk abt her well being.... :-)

Change ur attitude MAN...respect WOMEN :-/ !!!

did i ever ...show any disrespect to u..

if u talk about equal rights.. talk as an equal human being and dont demand men to be sweet towards u..I was just talking to u as I would have talked to any person...dont demand for respect..pls..u lose more respect by that

@raisa : i havnt read all the posts here.  But going throught some of your points you are mainly concentrating on "puranas".. come on.. is that all..

do we need to really dig around the past like this. I agree that women were under many rules(i am not telling men laughed at woman) in the past centuries.But now things have changed. Women in the current age have so much freedom and there are literally no rules to make them suffer or whatever. so the discussion is almost pointless.

Let me quote my favourite movie line here: "After CENTURIES of men looking at my tits in stead of my eyes and pinching my ass instead of shaking my hand, I now have the *DIVINE* right to stare at a man's BACKSIDE with vulgar, cheap appreciation if I want to!"

It's true! Even today commodification exists! Else the terms "item", "bomb, "maal" would not have existed!

I need not even mention the other crap that women have to bear! (have already elaborated on that!) The list goes on!!!!

@unknown : I must say u r with great and very different thoughts MAN :-p !!!

I believe in talking about right things and not about "where's the more inclination "...

And seriously u have a problem .....u are never clear about wht m trying to say ..."NO GENDER BIASING PLEASE".....Men are not harrased much i guess....if required let me know il post a topic supporting guys.......i dont have problm with that....since as the topic says "WE HAVE TO MARRY MEN " :-)

...see..I strongly bellieve that.... nothign is perfect in this world..and nothign is right or wrong..

even a terrorist has his own ethics and values..

I just want to add value to a discussion.. so i participate..if ppl have problem in listenin to different views thats the problem of those people...

@unknown : Sorry u post the new one........Dont be a MALE CHAUVINIST....na na na :-p !!!

Cmmo'n talk abt women betterment....m sure u can do well in this :-P

hehe.. see even if u really dont mean that u can still put that  title as a sarcastic one..and am sure a lot of ideas will pour in..:)

oh com'on now u callin me MC...

let me tell u... theres a serious problem with me.. I dont like to go with herd..if everyone here were to support men..i wud have taken the women side..but since u were too much on women side..i took the men side..

after all discussion should have diverse perspectives..thats when it becomes a learning.. else if everyone says ya ya.. there is no use

@unknown : M din came to fight here that u r using words like "GIiving up ' and "lame excuses "...idea is about how to work for it...not about comparing who did what and better.....??? But from the first comment till the end.....just read again in case u want....u all men just talked about "your " contribution in "our " lives.....so thts wht i call MALE CHAUVINISM :-) !!!

I guess i the tittle should have been "MALE CONTRIBUTION IN WOMENS LIFE " :-) !!!

ok truce

change the title

@unknown : If u want to be so specific , to be clear earlier Men cosidered Women the one who should cook and take care of home.....this was the words of Mahatma Ghandhiji also. So i think they were never allowed to become the great one's.....!!!

and if u want me to mention few aftr independence ...i must say Indira gandhi and sarojini naidu (As u mentioned )....than talking about  today  Kiran Bedi , melinda gates (who works for India ).....

@Raisa if u have given up..please dont give lame excuses that u started it for "fun"..and u call me a male chauvinist hahah.. who has propelled the discussion..hahah thanks buddy..

read the my comments between the lines...i said watever we r right now wldnt be possible without either one's support..and u r teh one who started with a one sided stance..

u couldnt come up with stronger points I should say.. if i were u I could have given more sane reasons..which u missed

u had so vague terms.. from "time immemorial".."many centuries".."lots of cases"..

a tip for debating have ur facts perfect,never be vague....and then get into debate.. else ppl will ride on u...

@ unknown bhai,.  u r right my friend,.

there is a forum in delhi of patni trasta people. u cn see ads al over ., dahej ki aad main patni sataaye to hammare paas aayen.

they want 100% rights. if they get it then demand would go 200%. .

there is no limit to their demands. man. 

@unknown bhai,  u r right about that.

you can see posters all around delhi , dahej ki aad main, patni sataye , to hamare paas aayen.

patni trasta men can be found in millions, get a consensus done on it.

@pramod : Y  r u comparing Sir ?? ...I guess u r very matured and elder to me...and i guess u know whts the importance of Women in todays world....Please its not about who's hitting whom...!!!

@Raisa ..@Pramod bhai is just giving an instance that its not that women are the only suffering ones...n victims..there are men also who are being victimised.. well that has a point in it..

may be who knows..in another millenia.. women will totally dominate..and then men would keep complaning about it...just imagining..the men then would read history and think...those were the golden days... am sure u wld love that to happen now itself

@Raisa.. u shall be christened as radical feminist.. :)..

from ur quote "But Women had to always fight for her rights, which is the sad part"

I shall remind u some familiar names.. raja ram mohan roy, ishwar chandra vidhyasagar, swami dayanand saraswati, kandukuri veeresalingam etc.. from my school social studies I remem this.. and all were men.. apparently there were not that many women social reformers our text books talked about..may be u can allege that the text books were printed by men..

u missed my previous reply.. every single word of it came straight from my heart..

@unknown : Thanx for reminding me about the school days .....but i mentioned "EXCEPTION" part very well before....plz stress on this word, i repeat again....!!! And I have no issues against men as such I mentioned that also before ( I dont know y u r missing my specific dialogues evrytime and commenting :-/ ) !!!

I whole heartedly thnx to them seriously but where are the rest....???  India is a country with population of around 55% male (Tht was guess else ul start with statistics i fear)... so how 10 men can be sufficient to serve 45% women.....and lets talk about present days...!!! :-)

well I dint read the exception part or ur specific dialogues cos..u dint reply that to me.. u replied to @naveen..so i thgt it was not for me..

this was the first one u replied as @unknown

comin to ur point.. exceptions?? let me clearly tell u... mahatma gandhi alone dint get us independance.. we talk about him cos he is a great leader with great vision.. but the credit of independance has to be given to every individual who followed him.. so dont say only gandhi is exception and rest all are crooks

so the same way those social reformers we talked about in school books are not exceptions.. there are many who accepted their ideas and values and so the system changed...of those many there will be many men also going by ur ratio...

atleast  took those few men names..which even a school kid knows..but why arent there any women names... if women have to take credit for whatever they are right now.. there should some great women leaders also right ..barrin indira gandhi n sarojini naidu..and i havent read about social reforms they got..

@naveen : I guess i have mentioned abt excptions earlier....and also that its more about joint effort and not one sided....!!! But Women had to always fight for her rights, which is the sad part......and its not childish but the truth...!!!

@naveen : Its nice of u respecting the women around you....i expect more of these and evrywhere and every moment...!!!

Now u could have put up both those points under 1 @naveen

I was actually trying to sound much more like Martin Lawrence or Will Smith from Bad Boys! :P I've nothing to put into this topic n all i expect is some fun!

hmm..  basically der r all kinds of people everywere in this world, not only in india... so u just have to find the right person for u.. 

women do have to fight for their rights..  but the situation is improving, wid men like us :) supporting the cause..

ths all i want to convey..

@naveen : Honestly even i put this topic with pure intension of "fun"...but some male chauvinist took it other way around....and sori but i cnt sit quietly thn :-p

@shashi : he he...and this is called enjoying the cream when ther's hunger strike :-p !!!

@Raisa

Rama questioned Sita..is just a particular case.. I can show u hundred Sitas who question Ramas on the same.. now we cant take that as a very generic one..where women are made fun ofSati -< yes u r right.. ppl thgt it made sense then..but thanks to Raja Ramohan Roy (who is male by all definitions) it was removedPurdah,Burkha - u r right.. but ask women of Islam fraternity..if they have problem with Burkha am sure they would never say yes to it..they believe that the body is to just for their husband and not for every other guy..do u concur with it?now more than the muslims it is those who love to wear mini micro skirts have problem to see those women covered.. may be they want everyone to expose their bodies..so that they dont feel odd...haha.. Raisa am very sorry to say u sound bit childish by the last part of ur reply..women or men..noe does things independantly..without one's support other one cannot do ..I mean it applies either ways...

Now i know Unknown always comes up with the best answer or a sensible thought among the lot! U should rather become the Indi-Sensible :P

Good one Unknown

I think things are being discussed just for the sake of discussion. .

Sorry but it is very well and easy to say if the women did not like wearing a burkha they wouldn't right.. It's not so easy to execute! Society is a monster from whose clutches you cannot escape. If such things were possible as easily as you say then there would have been no issues ever! :P

@Unknown

@ shashi : I neither have problem with men nor women ......i love being a girl and thats how i wanna be born every time :-)........but i just hate this male dominated society at times....who takes it as pleasure and their birth right to make fun and rule on women like anything....its the scenario evrywhere 2dy also....and i just want to eradicate/change this view of men....

@naveen : Thts how a girl is , and one should alwys respect her whole heartedly.....and u need not have a gf to understnd this topc....its wsnt a Joke on women BUT rather MEN.. :-p !!!

That's the thing i didn't understand first of all..the JOKE in here

hmm.. well  i understand wht u wanna say.. is its not tht bad... things have improved in the last 10 yrs..  people r having more respect for women. . they have to.. coz this society cant survive widout women ...  wud be a real sausage fest then :P  (P.S - this comment i got from mumbai indiblogger meet)

@shashi : Thts very True shashi....and i guess m just talking about improvement and not that who's better "men or women ".... :-)

My view is that..i didn't understand the thing behind this topic..  Or probably thats because i haven't been dating any women and all those in part of my life has been cool with me, cute with me and have always cared for me, like my mom, sister n a whole bunch of cool friends!

if u had a gf, u wud surely have sumtin to day about women :P

I surely had a gf..n she was as good a woman as my mother...

@ Shashi " Thts y i love being in south :-) but we are talking about whole India....

And in a country like INDIA Men power do speaks.....it has to joint effort not one sided...and as i said before...i guess whtever v have achievd till now , its just beacuse of "US"...and no compliments for men , if few excptions exist...!!!

@pramod : So whts the whole agenda of telling what lead to war..?

Whatever the result was ....a women was made to suffer for no mistake of Her's...isnt that true..?

yaar prblm is illiteracy....

and lets 4get bout the past mythology crap.... but u tell me as a 21st century gal, wht prblms u have being a woman ?

lemme see if i can address tht..