Women dont joke ....because they marry them.. !!!
From years women always been the topic for men to joke on....even one can find so many blogs on " WOMEN N GIRLS "........the female gender is the hottest topic for men to discuss on anyday.......so its time to let you know guys that Women dont joke because they do the tremendous job of marrying them , when the hillarious part of women turns up into a blank....................
DOnt mind....but Truth is Always bitter :-p !!! So what views u hold on this sensational topic....???
Guys don't let it go. I will join you at the earliest opportunity..
Deepak, I've written this poem for you:
Don't eat my head
Go and eat bread
Run away from this thread
Else some sexist chicks here will make you parade.. naked
great quote Raisa.
thnx pratibha :-)
hahaha... Raisa never had any intelligent point of her own.. she was blowing trumphet on someone's points and she is suggesting me to learn how to discuss...hello it seems u r still taking baby steps in discussions..
so according to a good man is person who concurs with ur silly claims....oh ya.. so ya want to people to keep saying yes to all ur foolish claims of 90% and 10%..GOD knows how u generate those numbers..why not 91.234% ???? hey this time take 91.19% its a palindrome.. u can give that as reason
Raisa..may I know ur knowledge levels.. ur educational background? per se.
Please for GOD sake dont try to teach me.. u r just a kid I should say..
U started the topic as if u were passionate about teh subject and in the middle..somehwere u say.. that u started it for fun...u urself are not confident on what to talk.. u just wanted to throw a stone..by posting some stupid...
Let me tell u clearly...if I were I would made much more intelligent points
I have challenged u on many occasions with my arguments but u could never make ur own point.. see its ok to be ignorant.. but only fools dont agree that..
Aldeena has had her views clear and in one instance she did say she is not against men in general.. but u on the contrary have been claiming that from "time immemorial" "for many centuries" [pls dont give such vague terms] men have been harassing women..
Huh!..I shall put an end to this blasphemy.. the whole of this topic is ur play ground.. go on write whatever u want...
I have a weakness.. I keep diggin more with fools...when I still know the Jewish quote"dont approach a goat from front, horse from back and a fool from any direction"..
now I re-learnt that...
Enjoy!
@Unknown: I had thought you had some kind of sensibility in you.. But this particular statement makes me doubt that. Really sorry but you seem to be out to wage a war. Kindly read my arguments carefully. At no point have I made a bracket statement like "men have been harassing women". Please don't BS here.. And whatever i said I backed it up with facts. I have made no vague statements. When I said Partiarchy has been prevalent since centuries I also gave a solid example of the Greek Civilization and how the women were treated there. They were not even counted as part of the citizens. Greek Civilization was 8 centuries or so B.C and that is more than centuries.
It's really silly of you to say things like that and trying to justify your weak claims. And you seem blinded to reality.
Talking about knowledge levels and credentials, what are yours may I ask. if you think patriarchy is dead then you are living in some world of your own. It is a life that you have not experienced. I know women who live each day like its hell for them. You don't know what they have suffered so you have no right to say this stuff. It's infuriating to see such poignant and serious issues being treated like they are trivial.
first of all that was not intended for u..y r u over reacting?
The whole post was to Raisa..
I'm sorry.. I had thought you were addressing me too. Really sorry about that..
Certain other comments made on this topic here gt me a little pissed off. My anger was wrongly directed.. Sincere apologies from the Minstrel! I feel really bad about it now..
its a flower pot, Gamala , a correction.
@ unknown bhai,.
we have a lady president, a dummy prime minister governed solely by a lady,
A lady railways minister too etc.
in villages, as per reservations ,ladies are holding posts of mukhiya, ward members etc.
A lot is changing.
I don't know , if any have seen the clippings of wrath of lady m.p. throwing amala with full force at senate fight.
I like your dare attitude to not to budge from facts. not like kaayar's ,taking a pacifying stance.
I stand firmly by your side., and going at the rate you r going , I hope you r not offered what churchill had been offered (poisoned coffee).
just joking.
Don't dare say the Dummy PM. ManMohan Singh is governing India and he is more than capable for that!!
@Mr Pramod: I'm sorry you seem to be acting like an MCP by your statements. We are not talking about the elite bracket or the political ministers and all that jazz. They form a minority as compared to the rest of the country. If a city like Delhi is not free from such bullcrap i shudder while imagining the state of the rest of the country. What the lady ministers are doing is not the concern. Do you have any inkling of the situation at the grassroots? The topic was supposed to be something entirely different but the chauvinist statements made here have made a mockery out of a very sad and serious situation.
And for the record, Mr. Manmohan Singh is not a puppet. Just because, Mrs Sonia Gandhi did not take the PM post it's party time for all the chauvinists to sit and claim that Sonia is pulling the strings. It's sad that you are joining that brigade. It's a noble thing that she did by declining the PM post. She is a woman who has dedicated her life to the service of a nation that was not even hers by birth. And all you can do is laugh and mock her? And the man who's the PM, you jeer at him too?
Now i guess both parties have rolled back from the battlefield with their cannons n guns..its good night from naveen, good night guys!
@Naveen - Seriyana kalluvere meene-lle nalleve-re meene lah you!!!
@Naveen - It's just a saying in Tamil...well, this place is really hot!
Y r people backing off saying sorry n grow up? This is nothing close to a decent fight!
Well..stop it people n get some sleep fella's...its holiday time 4 me, so the sleepless night doesn't really matter, but u people could be dozing off in the office in some hours!
@unknown : M enough grown up in my sense....and others perspective...!!! Better u learn something....atlst how to discuss rther arguing . !!! If u have doubts go and update ur comments from the strt , ul get clear view of wht u have spoken all these time... nwz no more offending comments against u..
m really sorry if i hurted u in any way ...and i really mean my words so dnt come up wth ur bullets if u can't be sweet now atlst ... :-p !!! Tk care and good night :-)
@naveen : u gonna be very nice husband , he he....atleast u know how to respect other gender.... :-)
@aldeena : It was nice meeting you....and m off now...i cant tolerate mal echauvinist nymore..omg..!! Still Asusal vl try to do smthing better with better bloggers next day :-) take care
@unknown : Even a word of requst cnt be understood by you....v dnt expct ny sort of conrtibution from you...thts y u r out of "exception " list and among the common ....!!! And thts y i said its women only and only whos doing for her own betterment (leaving excptions ...naveen u r thr in the list :-))
nwz tk care and have nice sleep....byeeeeeeee :-)
@Raisa.. i really dont care an iota of what u think about me...
and I dont have to prove to u how much I respect women.. I was just tryin to help u in maintaining ur diginity by not pleading.. if u see ur comments.from an agressive stance u went into a defensive one pleading for respect.
I should say u can not accept any views which are contrary to what u think... see a person can always grow up..if he learns from diverse views...
Oh..leave me out of it..its kinda suffocating place to be, at this odd hour!
Gd nyt Unknown & Raisa! have nice day pals!
@Naveen congrats for the testimony dude.....u seem to have shown immense respect towards women..i dont from which post of urs..
ppl just cant take in honest and clear views..
@Raisa grow up!
Unknown..i doubt if it was a testimony or a knife up above my head!
Good night all... got office tomo...
sweet dreams..
@Aldeena @Raisa byee..
oh ya @Naveen bro...good night!
@unknow: no guns seriously ......"please respect the gender whose your mother and sister ...m just asking for that....u very well know about present scenario...y r u with intensions of proving us wrong....these are facts which u cant change.....ther lies mistake of evryone's......if someday some women would have stood for her rights.....these all would have eradicated for long time back..............but still men like you are fightimg instead of supporting the situation...
Thts y m with the guns....xpcting to make u understnd wrong illusions of urs....u r rght if u tk abt right things....what 's a problm in lending ur hand as support to instead of bragging annd arguing...
u think u gonna gain smthing, neithr me , neithr aldeena , no one...it be same....xpctations are from society in which WE are living and evryone shd against the wrong , not tryng to make it rght .....thts all i been trying to convey u from the strt...but m sure u again gonna come up with some critcising arguemnt of ur's....
Y this gender bias when end of the day we need each other..... :-)
@Raisa.. first of all dont plead..for respect...
sane ppl will do respect...insane will never listen..
ok.. I shall end this heated debate.. thanks @Aldeena and @Raisa.. for the bullets..which i had to dodge..
Unknown..u did fight pretty good buddy, i was stuck inside a crazy space shuttle all the time! :( couldn't stand by ur side n dodge a couple of bullets too!
Raisa and Unknown are fighting like an old married couple!!! HEhehehe!!!!!!!! Gender wars continue! Okay children break up the fight, put down your guns and talk gently and nicely..
Now guys..i donno the last 2 hours were fun for u guys or not, but it was for me!! Astonishing movie Apollo 13 is! I would have loved to be there too!
@Raisa.. i can conclude it beautifully...
see I am not a guy who tries to be sweet towards girls...just to get smoe brownie points.... I have a point I make it thats all..and through out this discussion I have treated u as an equal.. but it disheartenign that u have perceived me as a person showing some disrespect...towards u.. it was not towards u but towards ur skewed ideas...
@Raisa started topic as women on whole..now cos @Aldeena says mom-in-laws are different background[with due respects to her own ideas..i dont want to comemnt on it].. now @Raisa shifts her argument towards husbands being responsible..
@Raisa defend mother-in-laws..if u have to go by ur initial argument...let me see
This is not a blame game guys..It is something that has caused many women to live all their lives in pure hell! Our mothers and those mother-in-laws could have been victims of the same thing..Haven't you thought of that Unknown? They had mother-in-laws too.. It's all they know..Life was not such that they could have extensive knowledge. It's not about whose to blame.
i'm not defending the mother-in-laws- I must clarify. inhumane deeds I can never and never will defend. The mother-in-law who kills her son's wife for dowry is a killer. And so is the husband who stands as a spectator. Both are equally wrong. But we must rise above the blame game and look at the bigger picture. it's not who or what but why that is the root to finding soultions...
yes..i agree to that...so dont discount the mom in law and say only men do it...which has been the stance..for almost last 2 hrs...so blame those human beings whose minds are screwed up...there is no diff between men n women...
@Raisa where r u..
@unknown : Ur came here with a view of arguing ...i came to discuss...both got different meanings in case u doubt...!!!!
The whole agenda talks about enhancing women position , m still talking about the same....and please note u came up with the topic of "MOTHER IN LAW"....(please read things properly alwys, i requst u now ) , m trying to tk about present, u giving me whole past list of "MEns Contribution ".....Mother in law is another past topic....start living in present please... :-P
And m in no interest to defend and prove u something...i speak about the truth...neither m with "KYUKI SAAS BHI KABHI BAHU THI SERIAL"......thts a flop now MR..so come out of it....U have tkd about all Off topics and nonsensicsl topics here , start tking about present world things (Request u again )....
And still to defend myself......yes its true that Women is Women's enemies.....but evrything has a reason....if u concerned about todays issues...(which i doubt )...mother is forced to kill her girl child beacuse otherwise she wont be allowed to survive, women are forcefully skd to sleep with her own father i law, they are beaten up...., they had been forced to live the life where they they are made to suffer evry moment of it.......they are askd to give prefrnce to their son insted of daugters...this is all forced on women for thr own survival...!!!
Raisa, I agree with your point about survival. Yes, that is the reason many a times. Very valid..
@naveen : yes m keralite :-)
@unknown : i just wanna ask one thing ......wht would be ur conclusion about this whole discussions..??? Do u thing all the points v commented are wrong here ..?
or u with some new and differnt perception.....???
Hey, i'm a true-blue malayalee! What do you mean by we? Like it or not, njan thalli kerum into the topic!
Oh god! :O never knew this place was so full of mallus :O by we i meant Keralites r warm :P
@ unknown : Welcome back again .... and c again out of topic :-p
not interested in talking about the 90% case (which is usually male harrasing women ) ....but ul talk about the 10% case ( where its just about women )...Y r u so confronted dude..??? Give us the reason for wht v r sking first....thn vl discuss rest..
@Raisa.. pls yaar.. u r arguments are weak.. can u give me a source for that numbers u quoted 90% and 10%..just dont dream some number ok..give me a hard fact..
@Aldeena : That was a nice example :-)......and thy'l watch such movies 4 times... and this is wht we call male domination which i hate to the core....!!!
And regarding society , i had been brought up in a culture away from these....as in personally i have never experienced smthing like this before....but yes m a keen observer and i do agree with you 100 % !!!
@Raisa: Being a Keralite brought up in DDelhi i have experienced both worlds and there really isn't that much of a difference, atleast in Kerala. Even now women there believe it is okay for their husbands to get drunk and come home and beat them black and blue. I'm not exaggerating, I have seen this happen.
@ Naveen: yes, these things do happen..even worse. There are women who have been killed for silly things like dowry and marrying out of their caste or within their caste! Sheesh! It's a moronic world out there!!!
the chem lecture i attended in my 1st year was not at all of my interest, still had to attend it na? so y an exception here?
U never know if Renie has this crazy survillance camera up above us n gives Indi-rank on basis of this! :O
haha...no they have this behavioral problem..thats y they r not still up there..
well..i am having a decent attendance too, n my ranking stays at 54! So my behaviour has to be the worst uh?
perhaps.. Or maybe you did not supply enough beer to the ranking crawler!
Btw, we are taking the header "general and off topic" to new heights! Maverick mallus strike again! Hehe! Totally off the topic!
Oh..yeah...i know why it happened to me...its the beer!! I just forgot abt it when that lazy crawler came towards me, barking!..
next time i am gonna feed him cans n cans of beer..n some nice pickles for touch up too
Ok I am not saynig we are living in an utopia.. I do read crime news..
so? I have read a lot of cases where women have been cruely burnt for more dowry...
and u know the funny part..a lot mother in laws also take part in this royal ritual..[read heinous crime]
now whom should we blame here???
actually..do these things happen in real life? i have seen the mother in law - wife fights in movies, but not heard any in a real life!
The thing is the ingraining..I would mention the burqa argument here. I have studied this particular issue in my Masters so I talk from the pulpit here! :P
Patriarchy is so deep-rooted in our minds that it is hard for us to remove it so easily. My generation has been a little immune to this I would like to believe but my mother's generation was brought up under this and conditioned to believe that all that crap is right. It is not ok for women to question things, think, fall in love and mundane things like that. Mother-in-laws come froma different background and that is the reason. They were brought up in a world that taught that all that shit is what is right. It is so deep in their minds that it is rooted in their minds.
The burqa too, it is easy to say they would not wear it if they didn't want to, but to say 'no' for a woman is not so simple. There is condemnation and ostracisation that will follow. How many women would be in a mental position or social or financial position to take that risk?
The problem thus lies in indoctrination of redundant values. The day that goes our world will be a better place..
@Aldeena I should say u r smart from ur points..unlike many I read above...
but ur argument has nto answered clearly what i posed...u say mother in laws are different bckgrd..pls plss plss.. they are also women....a daughter in law becomes a mother in law...
@Unknown: My point holds..read it again. The current crop of mother-in-laws belong to the same generation that I gave my mom as an example of.. When I become a mom-in-law, I can assure you that it won't be the same. Because my upringing is different. I have a different view of the world...
@unknown : i told you , u have a problem u comment without reading things properly.....
And if u want me to prove my point...recently around 4 cases came up in bnaglore where husband have killed their wives , they all well educatde , even women are working ,living in nuclear family , still for some issues like money and all...thy have murdered thr own wives.....
And also to remind you that gone are those days where mother in law use to burn her daughter in laws...because hardly ul find people living n joint family these dyas...its rare...!!
Moreover...even if mother in law is coming to burn where is the husband....y cant he come and rescue her...i guess its a man's reponsibility to take care of his wife after marriage from all sorts of evil around her if he really respects her in any sense......!!!
So when u cant expct a bit of respected from literate man....thr's no use of talking about the illterate old genration people....i hope ur points against me are clear now...
@ALdeena..
ok here in the whole of the thread the discussions have been about past and present.. u r talking about future.. I was pointing to the past n recent past..i am blaming those women who have harassed women..now lets ask @raisa to tell how much percentage is that figure..cos i cant dream numbers...are u reading @Raisa..
cool so according to u in another 2 generations..whole so called fairer sex will be fully emancipated.. if u go through the whole thread it has started with a skewed stance..which I was trying to argue on..
@Raisa.. I did read..so I commented.. on that..its a case where a futuristic scenario is given an explanation to past problem..so I asked Aldeena about that again..
see the problem with me...is I am more intelligent..
in that cases u gave...u have told about the Mom-in-law u r telling the husband has to help..yes u r right..he has to.. then what is the mom-in-law a women? or animal? talk about her gender and her responsibility.. u see women r killin women..
@ both..let's not fight over this..it's something that both genders need to work towards..
@ Unknown: No, I am not saying two generations further all women will be emancipated. I am not trying to give a soution here, I'm not God! You're not getting what I'm trying to say... I am talking about the reason and not the solution. The problem is the deep-rooted patriarchy that still exists. That conditioning must stop for any change to come about. And I can tell you with full proof that this conditioning is prevalent even in my generation and yours too, assuming we belong to the same. ;) There are some peers and cousins I know who think diffferently from me and are still not free from this because of their conditioning.
The sloution is something I have no clue about but yes, it will start with each individual, and it's not going to be easy. But I hope it will get solved someday... If I free my mind, I will help my kids to grow without those shackles and they in turn will help their children and friends and so on..It's a chain, until everyone joins it won't be complete.. :)
I was not talking about present and past, I was simply answering your question..
@ Unknown: the mother-in-law is a victim of flawed beliefs..Her parents must have believed in this and so she was indoctrinated as well. As I said, it is how you are conditioned which makes you who you are...
@Al deena yes u r right..if u go thru the way the disc started..it was like men and only men against women..
now we see it is humans against humans....ok i agree that women r physically weaker..so more women come under the victims.. and again this has been varyin with times.. it is defly not the case before modern social reforms
I disagree with your argument with all due respect. It's very sexist to say women are physically weaker. it's not just women as victims..I'm not looking for a sympathy vote. But things have not changed that much..I have already defended this statement. It is only in the urban areas that you see change. Try delving into the grassroots and a different picture will emerge.. You're argument is very uppity and bourgeis for my liking..really sorry! But you're looking at the world with rose-tinted lens. i'm not talking about your immediate surroundings but about the entire country and also the world. Progress has been largely in urban areas..
I quote my prev statement:
" I agree the situation is better now, but it is mostly in the urban areas, look to the rural parts you will see that conditions are as bad as before. Sati still happens, so do marital rapes, forced marriages, etc...Things that are inhumane and disgusting to say the least! Sorry for flushing the humour out but some of the remarks here were a little offensive atleast to me. We don't have it easy. I live in the city of Delhi, I am a well-educated girl with very progressive parents and a great boyfriend, but society is such that there are still times when I wish I wasn't a girl. Things would have been easier. There are some freedoms that shall never be mine. Because of my gender."
@Raisa dear pls dont jump into conclusions.. i know u r all guns on me to find mistakes on me.. hold on..
dont underestimate others ..
@Aldeena well u have all right to disagree so do I..
well u r right..there are some women physically stronger than men.. so my statement doesnt hold true all time
Thanks! I'm not against men in general. I can never be. I enjoy feeling protected by my guy, I like him bein all gentlemanly for me and stuff, so let me assure you I'm not a staunch feminist! I can never say men are wrong. A sensible man who has a mind of his own and sees his woman as an equal, a partner and not his property is a gem! But such guys are not everywhere...That's all that I would say... I'm not atacking you, just putting across my viewpoint..
@Aldeena.. even I wasnt attacking.. i never had any skewed stance.. I was giving my points..backed with logic n practicality....and do read @Raisa's statements..
I was just giving views contrary..makin it a fruitful discussion...do u think..it burns much of grey cells to say just ..ya u right..yes well said..wow wat a point..I can never do that..say something..which makes sense.. else shut up...
hehe!!! South Indian takeover happening here! Looking at the last 20-22 posts!
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