New IndiVine Contest: YES or NO to Pre-Martial Sex

I don't know. I'm still rofling over the topic

I know... I am thinking on the same lines too! O_o

I agree

'member'? ha! ha!

But seriously, it is the minor 'members' who need to have a clearer concept.

Agree minors may be members, but all are entitled to an opinion . I would rather love to read what our minors have to say about it .

Really? What sort of answers is the author looking for? Are the judges going to read the posts with some pre-conceived notion?

I am a bit sceptical about this conclusion.

Arvind I think this contest is similar to those contests where only women win.  Here, only those who support the topic might win. (I might be wrong )

One word- write responsibly

that became two word

Yeah - the usual individual freedom, tyranny of society and relegion yada yada.

what about courts??? shud they be done away too..as they judge people for their actions

They are in a position to do so. So, they do it. They judge only the legal aspects of the action, not the morality behind them.

Come on... no blog post ever 'judges' anyone. I mean, whatever a writer writes is a part of his/her sensibilities and priorities at that point of time and must be read and accepted as an opinion. 

Sex is NOT about morals anyway. It is a genetic urge. I agree that personal morals should remain personal.

My point is if there is NOTHING you can do about it, why bother discussing it? I'd rather spend my energy teaching kids to be safe, in showing them the risks. Education. Not the religious dogma and crap about "sanskar", but real, down to earth advice.

It is NOT a cultural thing as everyone seems to think.

Western Culture (or at least our perception of it)  and Christianity are vastly different. When we are talking about Western Culture it is understood to be Western Pop Culture which is propogated by Hollywood, Sitcoms and the works.

That's the thing. We aren't understanding the proper culture before making any statements. If all the Americans had views similiar of our perception, they wouldn't have Republican party at all. The existence of Republican party shows that there's a culture wherein pre-marital sex, abortion and things like that aren't acceptable. Doesn't it? Otherwise there would be only Democratic party. Their Republican party is similar to our Bajrang Dal and Shiva Sena and the likes.

Am I making sense?

No. I don't know about those parties

But does the logic make sense?

PS: You don't know which party Sarah Palin belonged to?

indian culture is quite colourful enuff...no need to go western...just go kajuraho and read kamasutra

Yet - pre and extra marital sex happens all the time. I don't know why this debate even exists. The fact is there is NOTHING you can do about it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It has existed for generations in ALL cultures and will continue to exist as long as humans retain the primal urge to procreate. Genetics!

I do not agree that "When we are talking about Western Culture it is understood to be Western Pop Culture which is propogated by Hollywood, Sitcoms and the works."

There are lots of misconceptions about "western culture" from people who've never left India.  Firstly, there is no "Wester" culture. The North Americans are very different from the Europeans for one. Even amongst North Americans, Canucks, Yanks and Mexicans have different "cultures".....

@Ajesh, You contradicted my statement, but in a way, we both are saying the same things. For better articulation, I give it to you

I second you.

Well... well... well... you talk of 30 years as if it were 30,000 years! :)Pre-marital sex has been there throughout. It is society's perceptions and acceptances that change.

...and, I'm sure no topic is 'stupid'.  

Arvind - I use 30 because I can name names that far back. As I mentioned elsewhere, it has always existed and is part of genetics. 2 Sentences after the one you quoted I say exactly that

"It has always existed and will continue to exist."

No - some topics ARE stupid. They may be well meaning but those who are against pre-marital sex are not thinking about the consquences of their stand. That is my point. Keep religion and politics out of people's sex lives.

Yes, Societal pressures and acceptance will change and evolve and we must do the right thing to help it evolve in the right direction and not take it backwards into the medieval age. Check out how the Scandinavians have dealt with it. Compare it with the Yanks.

People who talk of "Indian" culture are smoking something from a pipe I'd like to get a hold of. Is there such a thing as "Indian" culture? Would you say the perceptions in the north are shared by those in the south, east or west? As I mentioned "Western" culture is not some one homologous thing. It varies from Europe to North America and even within regions within those vast areas. So let's not compare "Indian" culture with "Western" culture. Please.

i didnt want to get into this...but just as you wont like those against pre-marital imposing their thoughts on others...same goes for those for pre-marital ...dont you think? eg you dont want others to impose their culture watever etc etc opinion on you...but you want to impose yours on them?

I am not imposing any culture on anyone. I'm saying people should think for themselves and not follow any old dogma they've been fed. Do some research an then make up your minds. I'm saying sex is a genetic thing. You cannot impose legislation or social pressure, because neither of those will make it go away.

exactly...you cant tell others what to follow or not...if someone wants to follow some dogma its their wish and you shouldnt have any problem with what they follow right? as you say people should think for themselves...so you should let them do the thinking for themselves rather than say dont follow old dogma or watever...right?

People should also be allowed not to think.  Too much thinking is bad for health.